Judge in Italy links Autism to MMR vaccination.

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Judge in Italy links Autism to MMR vaccination.

This is the first time legally they have been linked and could have huge repercussions in our Country as well;

Landmark ruling in an Italian court has said Valentino Bocca's autism was provoked by the MMR jab he had at aged nine months

His parents have already been awarded £140,000 and could be paid an additional £800,000 in their case against the Italian government

The case could set a precedent for many similar civil proceedings

At nine months old, Valentino Bocca was as bright as a button. In a favourite family photo, taken by his father, the baby boy wriggles in his mother’s arms and laughs for the camera.

His parents look at the precious picture often these days. It is a reminder of their only son before they took him on a sunny morning to the local public health clinic for a routine childhood vaccination.

Valentino was never the same child after the jab in his arm. He developed autism and, in a landmark judgment, a judge has ruled that his devastating disability was provoked by the inoculation against measles, mumps and rubella (MMR).

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160054/MMR-A-mothers-victory-The-vast-majority-doctors-say-link-triple-jab-autism-Italian-court-case-reignite-controversial-debate.html#ixzz1xwKjDl8S

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160054/MMR-A-mothers-victory-The-vast-majority-doctors-say-link-triple-jab-autism-Italian-court-case-reignite-controversial-debate.html#ixzz1xwKWwJuW

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But this is complete and utter rubbish. The MMR is NOT linked to autism, there is absolutely NO medical proof. On what evidence did the judge make this ridiculous decision?

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Apparently that of the medical professionals that appeared in his court by the looks of the story.

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Oh, OK, now I've read the article, and I STILL can't find any proof except for one doctor's word, which boils down to "because I think so". How can this be reasonable or even moral? Never mind all the extensive and exhaustive research projects around the whole world, one twit in Italy  makes an uninformed pronouncement based on his "gut feeling".

Every prisoner in Italy should be set free, their legal system is clearly not fit for purpose.

Stand by for a great big measles epidemic as the idiots who  believe everything thats written in the Daily Wail take it as reason not to vaccinate their kids, and the anti-vax loonies ride this all the way to the mortuaries.

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What BFG said.

I shudder to think how many unvaccinated children will now be harmed as a result of measles complications etc because their parents are too scared to have the mmr/singles 'because it causes autism'. It doesn't- there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest otherwise.

Autism develops that way. Regression is a characteristic of a large subset of autistic children, and happens whether the child has followed a standard, different, or no vaccination schedule. In children with Down's Syndrome and autism, those who regress do so at the same developmental point as those without Down's, only with them it is age 3-ish and not round the time of any vaccination.

I understand that it is heartbreaking for the parents- Alex had a big regression- but that's what autism does. I'm honest enough to recognise he was autistic before that and that it was a natural progression of his condition.

I suspect this case will be overturned/ discredited in time but the damage will have been done. The judge is a berk.

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Ys didn't have any regression so it that respect I am lucky because i don't have any emtional trigger to the MMR. I would like to know how many kids with Autism have never had the MMR?

ES had it and was fine YS had it and there was no major change tbh he carried on on his line of development.

I bet the DM loved this story.

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Good lord, as if there aren't enough non-vaccinating parents already. What's scary is that if they do go ahead and uphold this ruling, how many other families will seek similar compensation. 

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and in how many countries..

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Oddly, I've just seen a group on Facebook for parents who don't vaccinate. There was a picture with a list of vaccines given to children in the 40's, the 80's and now trying to say 'look at how much crap we pump into our kids these days'. What it doesn't indicate is how many childrens lives worldwide were lost because of the lack of vaccines in the 40's and 80's, and how many lives will be saved in the future by the progression of medical science. It makes my blood boil that people present such a one-sided view as though they're proving a point. 

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OliversArmy wrote:
Oddly, I've just seen a group on Facebook for parents who don't vaccinate. There was a picture with a list of vaccines given to children in the 40's, the 80's and now trying to say 'look at how much crap we pump into our kids these days'. What it doesn't indicate is how many childrens lives worldwide were lost because of the lack of vaccines in the 40's and 80's, and how many lives will be saved in the future by the progression of medical science. It makes my blood boil that people present such a one-sided view as though they're proving a point. 

It reminds me of my MIL objecting to having to use car seats for my DDs with the reasoning "well we didn't use them and you lot are still here". Yes we are still here but how many others from our generation aren't? (As an aside, the reason my 145cm tall 11 year old is still in a highback booster is because she wants to be).

Dh's nephew has autism. He was born and spent the first 3 1/2 years of his life in Oman where they don't give the MMR.

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My eldest has had the MMR, he collapsed, nearly died and requires hospital controlled vaccinations as a result, but hasn't got autism. C hasn't had the MMR (on medical advice) and has autism, yet the number of people who presume he's had the MMR vaccination is amazing

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