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Jacqui I can understand where your coming from, we know Kirsty will be vulnerable for a long time but also that she is going to want and need to get out there, so we need (we think) to teach her those skills for future use. over and over again until she learns them, hard work but so rewarding at times.
I'd love C to be able to be an active part (however small) in society, but his inabilty to cope in crowds and his behaviour will always preclude this - but no matter we will help him find his place in society
That's all you can do J - no one could ask for more.