The future of the chat thread: Now with a decision!

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I think a monthly thread to replace the chat thread is a reasonable middle-ground. I don't want it to become any kind of us vs them thing, but daily chat topics are different, and always have been. I post in both areas, and though I'll happily post in each daily chat, CT is fab of an evening if you've nothing really to say but want to chat.

If anyone's ever unwelcoming or dismissive of new members, it's not a deliberate thing. But I'm on another forum where members do refer to each other on a personal level, and it really doesn't seem to have caused problems. They still have newer members, who muck in and get on with it. I'm certain part of that is down to the fact that newer members see the support and friendships given on the boards, and it encourages them to become part of it.

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thanks roo - I think in a thread it doesn't notice so much - members were asked to moderate their useage because names were being used when that member wasn't even around, and many of us didn't understand who was being wished luck or for what, even though we were around a lot ourselves.

So, M asked people to consider other members reading their posts, and to make posts as accessible as possible.

I think that has happened personally - no one has been moderated for using names, because as long as you can work out the member being referred to, or responded to, it doesn't cause a problem.

But it's important that all of us keep a weather eye on making our posts accessible at all times to the casual reader.

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I felt very strongly about this last time (just for anyone who hadn't noticed Wink )

This time not so much.......

The heated debate last time caused alot of upset and hurt and ultimately lead to people leaving. However, it also caused the CT to kind of die down. I've missed my "imaginary friends" and being able to relax in their virtual company. So my feelings may have changed slightly. I don't care WHERE I chat as long as I CAN chat to all you lovely people. I like the idea of a monthly chat thread - there's still the continuity of chat - we can still do readbacks and it won't get too big. We could even have an ongoing challenge to try and increase the number of posts month on month......

For people who are trying to hang onto the chat thread, just sit down and ask why. It's been fantastic. It's been a real laugh and some fantastic virtual nights out have happened in there. But it's changed and fighting ofr something that doesn't really matter now can change the "tone" and feel of a site. Let's not go back to there. And I think I'd really fit in "behind the bike sheds"

As for different chat - daily and longer threads, I do think that there is a difference. I'm not 100% certain I can define it exactly. The daily thread is where I would post what I've been doing, or what I'm going to do... I'd comment on what someone else is going to do, wish them happy birthday or tell them to enjoy their day out.

When I'm behind the bike sheds, I'll chat about daft stuff - like what happens if the teacher's catch me smoking behind here (tho in actual fact I've mnow done nearly a year without a fag!!) I can get drunk (and I genuinely have done in the past!!) and tell silly stories, moan generally about my life - but not about my specific day - that would go into the daily thread IYSWIM.

One is for proper conversation and chat - the other is for silly musings/ ramblings.

Last point, after boring you all rigid - I can remember joining RK as was then, before the Killer Thread was started. And everyone seemed to use names. I figured out who was who eventually and it didn't put me off. Some people are well known as their name - others will only have their user name refered to. You don't have to hang around for long to figure out who's who.

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That's really helpful, thanks Kom.

And really, one year now? Bloody marvellous- well done you!

AuntyG

Ok, for what it's worth! I've no idea what the problem was about on that thread before, nor do I have an issue with it now. As an occasional user who's been around for a while, I find the never-ending-very-long chat thread intimidating. It doesn't make me want to go and see what's being said. If I was a potential new member it might put me off.

On the other hand, as an occasional user who's been around for a while and who doesn't use the chat thread, I'm not sure my opinion about it is very important. If I mention it it's to show a different point of view that potential users may have.

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Daedalus wrote:
Move the chat thread into HP. That way people can be as friendly/crazy as they want and it won’t discourage new users. Likewise, there won’t be a thread with around 500 new message staring casual users in the face. Best of both worlds. Somewhere for old, chatty members to catch up, and even a place that new members could later be inducted into, but not in the way for people who don’t want to read it.

(Yes, it means I won’t be able to contribute. It’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make Smile )

aw Daedy, and after you had only just joined in as well....

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Seems I didn't need to encourage folks to contribute!

OK, a few points - yes the chat thread went quiet for a long while. The upset from last summer went deep for a lot of folk. Some of us hung around, some have wandered back, some are unlikely to return and will be missed. The Chat Challenges gave us another taste of what we had missed, and showed that there were enough people left who still enjoyed a good chat about nothing in particular, and that reawakened the desire for a general chat thread - the daily threads are to talk about something, the chat thread was talk about not very much.

I agree with a lot of what Komodia has said, and the thought of trying to better our record month on month appeals! So I would be willing to accept monthly threads. TBH, with the very limited search and page-select options we have here, monthly threads would be easier to navigate.

I am sorry if any visitor has ever been put off by the chat thread - we try to always be welcoming to any newcomer, though admittedly on busy nights that could be three pages later! And if anyone needed help from a regular during the evening, they knew where to find one!

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The in-house search facilities are not superb, are they? It's more efficient to use Google to search TSR, but even then it can be a bit hit and miss. So shorter threads would definitely help with that. Yet I hear what others are saying about continuity, the threads would have to be long enough to provide some sense of this too. Clearly another daily, for example, (not that anyone is suggesting that) isn't going to fit the bill!

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Nope! Conversations are best when they span several days, with people replying to posts made pages earlier!

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I totally agree there. The Chat Thread can be hard work when it's very busy, but I think that's part of it's charm.

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