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thinking of home schooling

hi im mum to 3 kids jade 7 kieran 5 and grace nearly 3 my eldest im happy for
her to stay at school as she loves it she very bright and has loads of freinds
however my son is oppersite he is been asssesed for autism and currently he is
at (edited for privacy) school(we aint religious just had best ofsted reports around here)
and its a very small school and so u would think been a small school they would
have better care of kids and there needs but no my son is very unhappy we have
had several meetings an they have said what i wanna hear to then find they aint
doing anything i think its way to structured for him as he no ntrest in learning
he will on computer and if its fun and he see's it as intresting but otherwise
not a chance espec for putting pencil to paper so because he is so unhappy to
point of him harming himself to not go to school attempting to escape which
luckily he aint manged as he been seen each time and he has taken several steps
bk he has even started biting again its adding extra stress on me which of
course he is picking up on and i never knew u could home school until i came
across it doing other reasearch and im liking the idea of having my son at home
where he is happy so id like to find other peoples opions and adice on how to go
about this can i start straight away or do i have to give notice etc also who do
i contact if i have to also id love any links to helpful websites etc i dont
know how long im planning on home schooling as im gonna leave that to kieran
when i think he ready or he wants to go then ill let him go well i think i have
covered most things if u have any questions just ask also can i still get him
statmented if home schooled
thanks for any replies

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Hello and welcome to MyChild.

Is your son at the same school as your daughter? I assume he has an IEP as it sounds as if you are in the process of going for a statement for him.

Have a look at the link for the information on the SEN Code of Practice (SENCOP) - you can read it online or download it, but it is quite a large book!

If you are going to home school, you wouldn't need a statement, as the education authority wouldn't be providing for him (as I understand it) but HS may not be the best way to go, depending on his requirements and needs. Are there other schools in your area that would suit him better, or a special school? ASD children usually like the structure and routine (as a generalisation) but obviously will need help to access everything. Does he have 1:1 support at the moment?

The Education otherwise site has lots of information on home schooling, and also the home education advisory service.

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hi and thankyou for reply yes he is at same school i have been trying to get a statment done since last year but the head teacher keeps making excuses he is suppose to have one on one but i cant see evidence of that and i know they placed someone doing first day on work experiance with him which to me is not good enough as this person is a parent of the school and has only been one a teavcher training course for 3 days also they are leaving doors open so he can get out of school which he has attempted several times also he has special juice as he is deficent in all vitimins etc and they are letting him go all day without a drink even tho i have said he needs to eat and drink otherwise they talking of feeding tube and drips they did it for one day and that was it i have looked at other schools and they all say they cant get the support right now coz of funding and cant garentee security for his to go to the special needs school he needs to have a statement hence why im thinking of doing home schooling just while he gets a statement and then i can send him there

i have printing out some worksheets i found last night and i actually got him to do more in 5 mins than they have got him to do all term and he was very excited about it and he found 2 easy and one harder but he still liked it which is making me more certain about homeschool for now anyway

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Leaving doors open doesn't sound good, for any of the children, let alone one who is known to run, lol.

Have you had a meeting with the teacher and Special needs co-ordinator? They should be pushing for a statement, too, in my opinion.

Good news that he enjoyed doing the worksheets though. I hope he continues to do so.

It is usually quiet on here on a weekend, but please keep checking in and I'm sure others will have some advice for you, and be able to offer support.

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thankyou again yes i have had several meeting with the teachers and head teacher from before he started nursery and we dont seem to of got anywhere he has had a full year going fulltime and they say not got enough evedsance or nows not right time with the statement they say they are a very secure school and they are gonna do this and that for me to hear from other kids that they aint doing what they have said they sit him next to a door that leads striahgt to outside and its always open reason for this gets to stuffy in there and only part of the time someone is wtching him as i found when i was early to collect at end of school and as waiting in playground when i see him coming out of door and nobody came after him i had to gt him and and make them aware of it they seem to tell me what i want to hear but dont do it also he is still in nappies we see continence nurse and i gave them her number as she was gonna talk to them and they said its all under control they dont need help for changing to find out on monday that if he soils his nappy they will have to call me in which i said no to as he will think im then taking him home
also they say he has been several wee's in toilet at school however i cant see this happening as he dont drink aot and he come home with same nappy on that he went with and they aint pull ups i was sending h in normal napopioes as i didnot think he was using toilet and i dont see how its possible to undo a nappy for a wee on toilet to then get it fasened several times as i have trouble getting the straps to stick after removing once so u could say i cant trust them i have known at least 3 kids been sent to dif schools for same reason just to be having problems again s this is why im thinking of all options i think he would enjoy the special needs school but i need a statement and school aint willing to apply yet still after over a year

thanks again it actually feels good getting it all of my chest

Tekkani

Hello.

I am currently considering home educating my daughter. My reasons are different to yours (she hasn't even been to school yet) but many of my worries and concerns about the subject are the same. I made a thread about it on this forum and there have been some very good replies which I think it is worth your time reading (as they will cover many of the thoughts you have in your head). A link to that thread is here:

http://www.theschoolrun.com/forum/home-education-spin-off-thread-from-th...

I think you should ask yourself some questions (which I have also asked myself!) with respect to HE.

- Are you able to give up the amount of time your son will need for his education?
- Are you confident in your ability to teach him, and if so, up to what level?
- Are you going to try to integrate him back into school at a later date (as I believe you are)? Do you therefore understand the curriculum involved in order to make sure he is not behind (or too ahead) in any subjects?
- Have you given consideration to how your other children will react? Will they believe he is being singled out for special treatment which they will resent, or tease him about?
- Do you have a preferred methodology for teaching him? One of the beautiful advantages of home education is you can teach in whatever way suits the two of you best, but you should still probably go into it with some idea of what those methods are.

It may sound like I'm being negative. I'm not at all; I fully support the idea of home education and believe for many children it is by far the best thing for them. I just think you need to go into it with your eyes open. It will become your full time job; not something you can do for an hour in the morning and then let him go off and play for the rest of the day. It will be demanding and difficult for you both at times and you need to have that all in mind before you start. It will also be rewarding, give you a far stronger relationship with your son, teach you so much yourself and be a superior education than he is likely to get at school. Go for it, and be sure that you'll get good support on this forum and others like it.

But please do read the other thread; it's full of great thoughts and somewhere in it is a link to a blog with some home education examples that I personally found quite rewarding to read.

In the meantime, I'll see if I can dig out some more links I've accumulated in my time and post them here later.

Tekkani

Education Otherwise is one of the websites I was thinking you should look at. They have a page on SEN too here:

http://www.education-otherwise.org/SEN.htm

Dig around there for a while and it can't hurt!

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Hi kay, and welcome to MyChild. The school doesn't sound able to meet Kieran's needs at all - unfortunately this is something quite common with "good schools". They are fantastic for kids who don't have problems but then, because they have very little experience of problem children, they can find it hard to cope with a child with more challenging needs. The two facts that really jump out at me are his physical problems - he is still in nappies during the day, and he has nutrition problems to the point where he may need a feeding tube in the future. How on EARTH can they say he doesn't need a statement? These issues plus his behavioural problems are all affecting his learning, so he needs assessment at the very least!

The fact that the HT won't even start the ball rolling for a statement is appalling. I suggest that you contact your local Parent Partnership organisation and ask for advice from them. They are tremendously helpful and can give you loads of advice. I THINK that you can by-pass the Head Teacher and ask the local authority to assess your child for a statement yourself, but PP can advise you on this as well.

Do you think the special needs school would suit him? Have you been along to visit it? Are there any other schools locally that might be able to offer him a bit more support, even if they aren't quite so good academically?

At the end of the day, if you want to home-school Kieran, you absolutely have the right to. You need to write a letter to the Head Teacher to tell him or her that you are withdrawing K from the school and will educate him at home. You do not need to ask permission to do this, you simply need to tell the HT. You'll probably want to keep things as positive as possible, given that Jade is still at that school and you don't want to make things awkward for her.

If i were you, though, i'd speak to Parent Partnership first and get the ball rolling on that statement. Best of luck!

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thankyou both for your replies its been very helpful tekkani replies to your questions

- Are you able to give up the amount of time your son will need for his education?
yes im on call allday anyway and i spend alot of time in or out on educational visits with my younger daughter and visiting playgroups
- Are you confident in your ability to teach him, and if so, up to what level?
im no genious and i will try my hardess to teach so that he enjoys it and has fun and learns the basics at least
- Are you going to try to integrate him back into school at a later date (as I believe you are)? yes when he is ready mentally or i can get the statment to send him to the special needs school
Do you therefore understand the curriculum involved in order to make sure he is not behind (or too ahead) in any subjects? luckily with my older daughter been 2 years ahead i have kept all her work there for i go use this as a guide i also have 2 freinds doing teaching assisitant course and they are willing to help me where i need it
- Have you given consideration to how your other children will react? Will they believe he is being singled out for special treatment which they will resent, or tease him about?
i have always explained about kieranto them they know he is diff and needs extra help as even my youngest is out of nappies and she does ask she is very forward for her age in alot of ways she has over taken kieran and if anything will give me more time with them if i spend daytimes with kieran
- Do you have a preferred methodology for teaching him? One of the beautiful advantages of home education is you can teach in whatever way suits the two of you best, but you should still probably go into it with some idea of what those methods are. i want it to be fun and intresting and not to hard or scary for him as learning should be fun

thanks for links ill def be reading them

barefootgirl

thanks for your reply also yes it is disgusting the way the headteacher is been she keeps saying they can handle him and clearly they cant even my doctors said they dont want outside help as it admits defeat i have contacted parent partnership and she cant see me for approx a month as she really busy and she is on 2 weeks holiday and then got catch up to do i also rang advocoacy alliance and again she is very busy and cant takle anyone else on for 2 months it seems alot are having problms with our local peadriion and schools

i ahve visited the special needs school and they have a dedidecated area for autistic children some of which i have met and thy all seem very happy and they all seem relaxed it more play based and less structured
i have also looked at schools in my area and 5 miles around and one head teacher actually had a go at me coz i was saying kierans headteaher was not supporting him (i resently found out they really good mates) another wa honest and said a statment will take time as they would have to ather evidance up themselves which could take time and they cnt get support in right away and others im out of area or no spaces or they cant support him ive been hitting a break wall for about 4 wks now which is when i started talking to other schools and having weekly meetings at his curent school which was always rushed as she had assembly to do (these was arranged meetings set by her) so as u see she is impossible

i read somewhere i had to inform led (local education department) is this right or is it just school or both or just led

anyway thanks for all help again ill be busy doing more reading now as i dont want to make wrong choice but it is feeling more right to home school the more i look into it

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Hello Kay and welcome

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